severus, thanks for posting this. Very interesting.
I was wondering if you might be willing to post the contents of the YPA article from this Awake. I believe it's on the subject of self-mutilation ("cutting"), which has been a topic for discussion in the past here on jwd. If you can post the article, would you please do so on a separate thread? Thanks so much.
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Profile of the New Awake!
by Severus injw's now have the january awake!
in hand.
notice that there is no specific date, for the awake!
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My "un"association letter
by AuldSoul in.
the name was suggested by someone who posts here, since it is not really a disassociation letter.
here, for your criticism pleasure, is my "un"association letter..
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Nice letter AuldSoul. Very succinct and sincere. I wish you well with it.
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Children and the "Sign" from Jesus...
by ackack injesus gives a sign .
he told them about things that would happen right here on earth.
so jesus told them about things that would happen to jerusalem and its temple.
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"Jesus said that another part of the sign would be ‘more and more lawlessness.’ That is happening too. That is why people almost everywhere lock the door on their houses. They are afraid that someone might try to break in. And in many places it is not safe to walk on the street alone at night. Never before has it been as bad as it is now."
This really disturbs me. The fear-inspiring mentality of the wts creates a whole society of people that thrive on fear. It's sad to me that they even target children in this. It all makes me so sick.
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Custody brochure next to be examined?
by alamb inthe blood information has now been dissected and shown for what it is.. .
the custody brochure encourages members to commit perjury, which is unconstitutional and unlawful.
this is another weak point.
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I just read the custody brochure. I feel like throwing up.
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well i finally did it!
by Cordelia inhere is yet another thread about me (im so sorry everyone) but hopefully this is the closing chapter, and i just wanted to let anyone thats helped me along the way to know whats happened.. i saw my dad and this time i was totally honest, he took me to some places we went as a child and said basically i have no choice but to stop seeing my boyfreind, and attend the meetings again maybe even work at mending my marriage as that is the only way i will ever be truely happy (apparently).
i said that even tho it means the past 9 months of attending and trying to get reinstated are a waste i just have to stop going to the meetings, i do not believe the society really acting on jehs behalf, (jeh would never shun me, etc) he said he cannot believe how spiritual iwas and that i am so 'apostate' now and in veiw of that he can have nothing to do with me, he cried i cried he said i am dead to him and it breaks his heart esp as he has to deal with the tumours he has found out he has,.
i feel so bad as he has tried to answer my questions and has come up with an answer on them all (except the un) and i know i am throwing contact with my family away and hurting them alot.
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I've been following your story Cordelia. And I'm so proud of you. I know this wasn't easy. Choosing our own path rarely is. Yet you found the courage and spoke your truth. Good work!
I think forsharry has some good advice in recommeding the support of a counsellor at this point. I've done this and it's helping me tremendously. Having a support network during major change is a must.
Take care and enjoy each day as it comes.
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Lords evening meal/last supper
by cyberdyne systems 101 inhas anyone else wondered why the witnesses hold a meeting in order to 'keep doing this in rememberance of me' ?
since i was old enough to think and reason (yes i know how terrible!
) i could never understand why our 'celebration', the one thing important to true christians in the year, was another meeting!
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The memorial was always the most stressful night for me as I was worried that someone I'd invited might partake and I'd have the judgment of every congregation member and elder. My stomach would be in knots and it would take me a good 12 hours afterwards to wind down. Ahhh, the memories.
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Why Door to Door on Christmas Day Is Not A Good Idea
by blondie indid you have any bad experiences on christmas day?.
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20051210/wire/212100303/1117/news.
this is a printer friendly version of an article from www.gainesville.com.
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Even as a loyal dub, I refused to go out in service on Christmas day. I thought that the "pagans" should at least have one day to enjoy themselves in peace.
I know a few elders though that would do phone witnessing on Christmas. And routinely get blasted by people for interrupting time with their families. Of course, they always found a few lonely elderly folk who were home alone and were happy to have someone to talk to on Christmas day. So sad.
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I've learned that . . .
by Steve Lowry insomeone gave me a little book many years ago that was nothing but one-line sentences, starting with the words, "i've learned that .
" and followed by the age of the author.
some of these little sentences were hilarious such as; " i've learned that if i turn my ice cream cone upside down, i don't have an ice cream cone anymore.
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I used to have one of those quote plaques on my office wall and my favourite was this one:
I've learned that you can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk....age 7
For myself...
I've learned that all is well even when all is not well...age 31
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Anyone ever go on one of those bus trips to bethel?
by limbogirl inback in the late eighties while still in high school instead of doing something fun for spring break i got an all expense paid trip to bethel.
on a bus no less with about 75 other jws headed to the promised land.
somewhere i still have a photo album filled with snapshots of the printing presses and all of the "cadets" happily churning out literature -- and of course all of the female cadets happily scrubbing toilets and doing laundry.
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Ya, I did one of the big bus trips back in 1993. I was sick as a dog and spent most of the time fighting a fever and a bloody nose. I kept up my energy for the actual bethel tour and crashed on the day that everyone went to all the tourist spots. Haven't been back since.
I also did the jw bus tour to Washington DC to see the Holocaust museum. It was a much better trip--less jw focused and more touristy.
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WT's Strong Hold on the In-active
by sandy inok, this past friday i organized a meetup for ex-witnesses in my local area.
i invited my brother who was never baptized (was almost baptized at 13 but one of the elders asked him to wait till he studied throught he second book).
after the elder asked him to wait he never attended the meetings again with the exception of memorials and some assemblies.
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It's funny because I noticed some of the same behaviour from my brother this year. He was never baptized and stopped attending at age 18. That was 18 years ago. Yet all this time, he's been emotionally tied to the wts, fearing his destruction at Armageddon. He had put his life on hold for a belief system that he wasn't even physically attached to any more.
Since I started to fade this year and subsequently disassociated, we've had some good talks about the real truth about "the truth." And he is now a free man. He read Apocalypse Delayed and is now reading Sign of the Last Days. He's finally moving on with his life.
It's still amazing though how deep the indoctrination runs and how even if you haven't been to a meeting in years or were even baptized you can still feel some obligation to maintaining the wts illusion. Crazy really.
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